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Arda Tarwa's avatar

I see this being a trendy subject lately, and to cut through it, what happens if she goes away for a few days, a week?

Mostly nothing. Dad gets done what is needed, that's what I've been hearing. The kids are relaxed and not stressed as they are not on the forced-bataan death march of sippy cups. Some snacks were missed, everyone dealt. Dishes were missed sometimes. No one cared.

This implies 1) These things didn't really need to be done, we should prioritize. 2) The standards are all set by women, who then assume, demand, invent, that this-thing-they-made-up-today is now set down by God. His opinion or preference is so irrelevant as to be laughable. 3) He IS saying it's stressful. But because modern life has very few places to trim back, what he's telling you is to trim back where you can and just decide it's okay, because your LIFE is more important than Instagramming your clean sink no one will ever see but you. That is, he's worried about you, the kids, being STRESSED. And if the only way to keep that below redline is skipping the dishes then skip them. This "Option B" section is not being seen, or availed. In fact, it's being divorced so she can continue with MORE stress in another house alone. In a reversal of gender expectations He cares more about you and the kids as PEOPLE than some pointless objects like folded laundry.

How can I know? Well in my house, I did the dishes, the laundry, the putting away, the lawn, the plumbing, the roof, the toilets, a host of other things. This was not good enough. So with a housecleaner, these were done professionally. That's fine, I can do other things as well. What happened? Instantly the LEVEL of clean doubled, to permit the same amount of stress and unhappy. House objectively cleaner, wife sadder and madder than before, in a stress arms-race. Not everyone gets to cross compare A-B like that. *The stress wasn't from the house at all*, it was probably from work but spilling over to a free-floating cloud of dissatisfaction.

Again, this is what men are trying to tell you. Probably in words at first, but as those will never work, in actions, by showing you things are still okay. You go away: the kids are fine, everything gets done somehow.

Which path is the "Good spouse/Good parent" path? Yelling at everyone all day and getting divorced, or taking it down a notch? Possibly both but consider my premise.

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Marina Sofia's avatar

Couldn't agree more, although I come from a patriarchal culture and definitely absorbed too much of the 'he doesn't beat you, he doesn't get drunk, he works, what have you got to be unhappy about' and kept the marriage going for far too long. Finally got divorced because he was cheating on me, but the interesting thing is that my sons (then 13 and 11) instantly asked: 'Are you getting divorced because he never does anything around the house?'

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